Curse

imnotyourmother · Oct 02, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

I Disagree.

Why, Because it is not about this toon or that toon but about the ACCOUNT and how it transfers to GW2.

I am going to get Legendary Defender of Ascalon and I have did just over 20,000 time (I know I just started) I Hate this idea cause the game is on Level playing field for NEW players.

I want what you had then when you first started. I want the exploit for Max damage weapons and runs in Presearing. You had that and I did not. THAT IS NOT FAIR. Change that back

I want all of the changes back from what they were before. I want the Ursan Back. I never had a chance at that.

You people are SELF ABSORBED. Just get the other titles you are one away and are just complaining instead of playing like the rest of us.

tazer · Oct 02, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just.nl

/notsigned
You just need to start over if you want that title IMO

Why? Exp is exp. Even this title's progress is defined by exp, right? Exp gained without death, that's the Survivor idea.

Etsuko · Oct 02, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58

/signed

Not to restart it, but make it account-wide. :3

I'm sure a lot of players have this issue with their 'pet' characters which they've worked hard on for the title track, and it would be great if the huge secret update of "title track change" addressed this. Most players who didn't /sign this didn't spend as much time on the game as those who did, it seems. Those who did on said pet characters would probably be happier to work a couple of hours getting Survivor on another character compared to working a couple of months getting EVERYTHING on said new character.

It'd be a great GW birthday present ;P

MithranArkanere · Oct 02, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just.nl

/notsigned

[...]You just need to start over if you want that title IMO[...]

You have to start over to change attributes?
No. This is GW, not Diablo II.
You have to start over to retry failed quests or missiones?
No. This is GW, not Baldur's Gate nor Neverwinter Knights.
You have to start over to get different skills?
No. This is GW, not Ragnarok Online.

This is GW. You don't re-roll. You retry.
That's how GW works, and Survivor is a flaw.

There is only one problem with this, and it's LDoA, and that's solving by making the title vanish once you leave pre-Searing and adding a way to add the Title to the HoM from pre-Searing. The best choice would be an NPC you meet in the Northlands that is going o venture North. Talk to him while you are level 20, and he'll travel north with the proof of your title.

8 years later, any other character that gets to the HoM will see the Title in the Honor monument.

Mordiego · Oct 02, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rera

/notsigned

Give old characters a one-time death reset.

Legendary Survivor is the only title that involves risk - it is the only title that you can actually fail to get *permanently*. Removing this risk makes it a very different title.

but I got a bad feeling it is going to get changed in the already infamous November update.

Candra · Nov 05, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

/signed

I have my main character with 29 maxed out titles and I've reached the Legendary Survivor title on 4 others (but not my main character). I wouldn't mind at all having this possibility : getting Legendary Survivor on my main with a system that counts experience for the title between 2 consecutive deaths.

Also having done my Legendary Survivors the old way (no FFF nor HFFF that is to say with quests, missions and skillcap) I must admit I don't like it when people think I powered-xp my chars through FFF. So I wouldn't mind the xp gain removed from the FFF quest :P.

the Puppeteer · Nov 05, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

You have to start over to retry failed quests or missiones?
No. This is GW, not Baldur's Gate nor Neverwinter Knights.

actually you just load a previous save

jaximus · Nov 05, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

how about, instead of complaining for them to fix titles, how about they fix the lag? my ritualist, a character i cant bring myself to play now that she died r2 surv 900k xp died when i was at the login screen. my brother was with me at the time, and yeah it hurts to know id have to restart to get that vaunted r3. i did it the real way, masters missions through factions/nightfall and skill caps. this was before the stupid punch out tournament and ive never fff/hfff'd, nor did i map or log. if you want to complain about it being a broken title, fix the punch out tournament. all you do is bind every key thats not a skill to 8, the stand up one and faceroll the keyboard till your r3 survivor. my r2 is much more impressive than 90% of r3's. (no offense to people like Candra who did it the right way). prior to fff/hfff and gwen, legendary survivor was the one title that you had to be semi decent at the game. please a net, fix the mess you made and give us one title, just one, that takes skill to get, one title to separate the grinders from the actual good players.

Amelie De Germania · Nov 06, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

I surely agree to your intention. I still have 29 titles max and there is still just one missing for the "god".

One way would be to set an NPC where you "register" to start survivor - maybe with a higher points of needet exp (like 3 Mio for example) and that you just can try it one (!!!) time from the start of registering.

Another option could be a title you can make when you still have NOT the survivor, or just play one of the "old" chars that are created before the survivor-title appeard. I think it is fair to give the "old" characters a chance to get a title because of the missing survivor.

Charlotte the Harlot · Nov 06, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

/signed

Either add the possibility to get it in between deaths or just make it account wide if they think getting survivor on an already lvl 20 char would be too easy (they would either have to make LDoA account wide too or restrict survivor from chars that have that.)

Scary · Nov 06, 2008, 08:50 AM // 08:50

/notsigned

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanGammon

/notsigned

its a nightmare to get for a reason. Those legendary survivors you see out there, you know they worked hard for it...........

Some of them did... Others (the most)...get it by leeching

the ontime death reset is a better idea

Mystica · Nov 06, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

/notsigned

I created a new char to get Survivor, successfully. Never flashed the title since but I know that I did it. That's enough for me. No need to have it on my main just to show off.

Lycan Nibbler · Nov 06, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazer

Why? Exp is exp. Even this title's progress is defined by exp, right? Exp gained without death, that's the Survivor idea.

Its not called exp title, its called survivor title though not exp title.
Survive = not die = 0 deaths.

/not signed even though it would benefit my main. and definitely not signed on the account wide considering I have 10 on my main account.

Candra · Nov 06, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amelie De Germania

I surely agree to your intention. I still have 29 titles max and there is still just one missing for the "god".

One way would be to set an NPC where you "register" to start survivor - maybe with a higher points of needet exp (like 3 Mio for example) and that you just can try it one (!!!) time from the start of registering.

Another option could be a title you can make when you still have NOT the survivor, or just play one of the "old" chars that are created before the survivor-title appeard. I think it is fair to give the "old" characters a chance to get a title because of the missing survivor.

/agree with the options you suggest

I think it's only fair to introduce a system that allows your good old characters to reach Legendary Survivor.

Also I don't mind if you make it account wide even though it'd mean I've made 4 Legendary Survivors 'for nothing'.

Lord Hares · Nov 06, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

/signed

Don't care how but make it possible for old players

Branlord · Nov 11, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

/signed. Although i agree with this i won't ever acheive it. I always tend to do something retarded thus having myself die.

DarkGanni · Nov 11, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

I Disagree.

Why, Because it is not about this toon or that toon but about the ACCOUNT and how it transfers to GW2.

I am going to get Legendary Defender of Ascalon and I have did just over 20,000 time (I know I just started) I Hate this idea cause the game is on Level playing field for NEW players.

I want what you had then when you first started. I want the exploit for Max damage weapons and runs in Presearing. You had that and I did not. THAT IS NOT FAIR. Change that back

I want all of the changes back from what they were before. I want the Ursan Back. I never had a chance at that.

You people are SELF ABSORBED. Just get the other titles you are one away and are just complaining instead of playing like the rest of us.

Max dmg and runes in pre was an EXPLOIT and afaik exploits get fixed.

Ursan was imbalanced and it become useless more than fixed.

....and now the title, yeah what about the title. Survivor wasn't there from the beginning (and all titles in general for what it matters), when they were implemented, players were already far in the game, bought armor(s) and not everyone feels like doing that over again.

Pre Sear exploit: Your character is still alive and kicking.

Ursan: Was nerfed but you still have your Character along with all its progress.

Survivor Title: Your eldest and favorite character has to be deleted along with everything customized for it.

Conclusion: New players can easily learn about the existence of the title and go go Dwarven Boxing till it hits the jackpot, Your 2005 character can't.

The fault is neither of the players and neither of Anet's. Things just went how they went.

As they say....Rome wasn't built in a day. I'll let you discover the meaning of that.

/signed

MiraBlackhand · Nov 11, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refyused

It isn't a "few hours" of soloing, it is a LOT of hours, and a LOT of boring grind to do it. Of all the Legendary Survivors I know, none of them got it from being afk or solely by soloing.

./wave

3 Legendary Survivors, purely solo w/ heroes / henchmen

All of them in under 24 hours of in game play.

I have other LS but they received help because I got tired of doing Kilroy without scrolls on normal mode for 20 hours (hey, I had to be safe on my first LS, screw doing it again).

I do however /sign this, or /sign to give us a death reset. I had a character made the first day of prophecies that is currently my main and I would *love* to be able to change her death count to 0 so I could get LS.

killerbot3009 · Nov 11, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26

/signed.

i have had the same problem as i am 2 more titles off of God walking and i wish i had thought about doing survivor when i made the char, but unfortunately i was a noob then lol. having the survivor title in between deaths would definatly make more sense. plz help me get my God walking A net. plus with the HFFF getting changed soon i may need this title as i am blatently not going to go from r4 -12 in less than a week.

btw, lord Chippo, just saying that u are saying that u had a char over 3 years old and that is all u have managed to do on it, trying to make it seem like a awsome thing, but really u havent done much on that char, so might be a good idea just to make a new one.

Owik Gall · Nov 11, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45

I know people who got the title already had worked their butt off, but I bet even they will want something like this idea take form. In fact, it's not very different than the way it is now. There's just a reset, that's it.

/signed.

It makes all the since in the world.